In my browsing last night, I came across a review from last October of KoRn's CD "The Paradigm Shift." Some of you have no idea who KoRn is so I'll briefly explain. KoRn is a "nu metal" band whose noxious lyrics trend towards death, drugs, sex, sadism, pain, bleakness, despair, etc. Just let me say, I'm not a big fan of KoRn's music. The reason I stopped to read the review is because of something that happened in 2005. Brian "Head" Welch, guitarist for KoRn, became a Christian and left the band. For years he has put his time, money and music into outreach and sharing the gospel. Into things bringing honor and glory to the Lord. When I heard that Welch was re-joining KoRn for this CD and tour, I must admit that I had some misgivings. I have seen too many people make the mistake of returning to their old life attempting to witness and influence their old friends, only to wind up being the ones influenced. Conventional wisdom would say that if an alcoholic gets saved and delivered from his addiction, you don't send him back to the bar to witness to his alcoholic friends. At least not right away. Perhaps Brian is grounded enough and secure enough in his faith that he is at less risk in that environment. I really have nothing to say about that part of his decision as it is between himself and God whether or not he is ready for that.
I also have no doubt that Brian's conversion is real. He has shown the fruits to backup his words. But to continue the analogy above, even if the alcoholic is strong enough for his assignment, should he then participate in his friends activities? Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea either. Because of that, I do question Welch's wisdom in going back to an environment that is anti-everything he has stood for in the past 8-9 years. That could be seen by many as an endorsement of their lifestyle, their music and their sin. And as I read more, especially Brian's own words to the Christian community, I am convinced that his return is exactly that. And I believe it's a direct result of the lies being cultivated by the "hyper-grace"
Speaking of God, I was getting some crap from a few Christians that were commenting online that KoRn weren’t “honoring The Lord” in their music. There was a time when I didn’t think God would be very into KoRn’s music and lifestyle, but I’ve learned that He loves everyone where they’re at. And I know God loves KoRn’s music because its passionate and very honest. I just trip out on these people that have the balls to judge people so harshly with their negative, hateful attitudes. It’s crazy how bold people are online. Not one person has come with their negative attitudes to my face. Luckily, most of the Christians are cool and “get it.” I only have to deal with a small number of knuckleheads.Brian, I don't know you and you don't know me, but I would welcome the opportunity to meet with you face to face and discuss this topic. Until that opportunity presents itself, I'll have to settle for "online", not out of cowardice, but out of lack of access. Don't dis me for not coming to you face-to-face when I have no way of doing so. I also hope that I'm not coming across harshly or negatively or hateful. I love you and I love KoRn. I'm not speaking up because I don't "get it", I'm speaking out because I do love you and I don't want you to be deceived. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that simply because I don't agree with you on this topic, you will automatically label me a "knucklehead" without extending me the courtesy of a civil discussion. That being said, I do have some problems with your comments.
I want to start with a question for the "knuckleheads" as Welch calls them. Why in the world would anyone expect KoRn to honor the Lord in their music? That's just dumb. Unless the bulk of the band has made some kind of public profession of faith, we have to assume that Welch is the only one who is saved. I've never understood people who seem surprised that lost people sin. Christians themselves have a hard enough time living without sin. Why would you hold someone who is lost to a standard you have trouble keeping yourself. But then, maybe I'm not reading this right and that's not really the expectation at all. Perhaps the question really is "why would a Christian return to a band that doesn't honor the Lord with their music?" As I explained above, sometimes that's not very bright either. Why would a Christian participate in making music that does not honor God and in fact, does just the opposite? I can only conclude that you have convinced yourself that God sees nothing wrong with it. Really?
As I mentioned above, there seems to be a ton of deception creeping into the Church today through what opponents call the "hyper-grace" theology and Welch seems to have bought into it. He says, "There was a time when I didn’t think God would be very into KoRn’s music and lifestyle, but I’ve learned that He loves everyone where they’re at. And I know God loves KoRn’s music because its passionate and very honest." Brian, just because God loves us doesn't mean He approves of or is "into" everything we do. You have children and I'm certain that you love them. Does that mean you're pleased by every decision they make and every action they take? When they do things that are harmful to themselves and others, does that make you happy? Loving someone doesn't mean we endorse or approve of everything they do. In fact, I think that endorsing or approving of destructive behavior shows just the opposite. Seeing those kinds of actions and that kind of behavior should bring us grief, not joy. God is not "into" our sin. It grieves Him. He is not into our destructive lifestyles. He mourns over them. He doesn't love our sin, He loves us in spite of it. And He certainly isn't "cool" with it. These silly notions of God's love brings me to the realization that our idea of love and God's idea of love are two very different things. We simply don't understand what love means from God's perspective. Perhaps C. S. Lewis can state things better than I can.
Divine "goodness" differs from ours, but it is not sheerly different: it differs from ours not as white from black but as a perfect circle from a child's first attempt to draw a wheel. But when the child has learned to draw, it will know that the circle it then makes is what it was trying to make from the very beginning. This doctrine is presupposed in Scripture. Christ calls men to repent - a call which would be meaningless if God's standard were sheerly different from that which they already knew and failed to practise. He appeals to our existing moral judgement "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" God in the Old Testament expostulates with men on the basis of their own conceptions of gratitude, fidelity, and fair play: and puts Himself, as it were, at the bar before His own creatures - "What iniquity have your fathers found in me; that they are gone far from me?" After these preliminaries it will, I hope, be safe to suggest that some conceptions of the Divine goodness which tend to dominateour thought, though seldom expressed in so many words, are open to criticism.Brian "Head" Welch, I am in complete agreement with you that God does indeed love KoRn. Or more specifically, He loves every member of KoRn. But that certainly doesn't mean that He loves their music or their lifestyles. Passion and honesty do not make something good or right, and nowhere in scripture do I find that passion and honesty are the ingredients for God's love. KoRn's lyrics celebrate everything that is anti-God: death, drugs, destruction, debauchery. To say that God loves these things is foolishness and I have trouble believing that anyone in their right mind would think so. And yet, it's the natural, evolutionary progression of the "hyper-grace" teaching that says our "post salvation" sins have already been forgiven so they can no longer separate us from God. In other words, they teach that once we're saved it no longer matters if we sin or not since those sins have already been forgiven. You have to completely ignore a whole lot of scripture in order for that to be true, both Old and New Testament, both before and after the cross. So it isn't, sorry. I don't really care what kind of "new revelation" you think you've had, God isn't going to contradict Himself.
By the goodness of God we mean nowadays almost exclusively His lovingness; and in this we may be right. And by Love, in this context, most of us mean kindness - the desire to see others than the self happy; not happy in this way or in that, but just happy. What would really satisfy us would be a God who said of anything we happened to like doing, "What does it matter so long as they are contented?" We want, in fact, not so much a Father in Heaven as a grandfather in heaven - a senile benevolence who, as they say, "liked to see young people enjoying themselves" and whose plan for the universe was simply that it might be truly said at the end of each day, "a good time was had by all". Not many people, I admit, would formulate a theology in precisely those terms: but a conception not very different lurks at the back of many minds. I do not claim to be an exception: I should very much like to live in a universe which was governed on such lines. But since it is abundantly clear that I don't, and since I have reason to believe, nevertheless; that God is Love, I conclude that my conception of love needs correction.
There is kindness in Love: but Love and kindness are not coterminous, and when kindness (in the sense given above) is separated from the other elements of Love, it involves a certain fundamental indifference to its object, and even something like contempt of it. Kindness consents very readily to the removal of its object - we have all met people whose kindness to animals is constantly leading them to kill animals lest they should suffer. Kindness, merely as such, cares not whether its object becomes good or bad, provided only that it escapes suffering.
If God is Love, He is, by definition, something more than mere kindness. And it appears, from all the records, that though He has often rebuked us and condemned us, He has never regarded us with contempt. He has paid us the intolerable compliment of loving us, in the deepest, most tragic, most memorable sense.
C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain
Love can forbear, and Love can forgive... but Love can never be reconciled to an unlovely object... He can never therefore be reconciled to your sin, because sin itself is incapable of being altered; but He may be reconciled to your person, because that may be restored.
Traherne. Centuries of Meditation, II, 30.
To say that because God loves us He also must love our sin and sinful lifestyle is false. It's delusional. It is impossible for God to love our sin. To do so would put Him at odds with His own Word, make Him a liar, and He would cease to be God. It is precisely because God loves us that He does not and cannot love and condone all of our actions. It is because of his great love for us that He has gone to such extremes to reconcile us to Himself. He loves us far too much and has invested far too much to leave us in our lost condition. Brian, I again extend an open invitation to sit down and have an open and honest, face-to-face dialogue on this subject. I realize I'm a nobody. I'm just a brother in Christ who loves you and wants the best for you. I long to see you living a life "worthy of the calling to which you were called." Grace and peace to you.
Speaking
of God, I was getting some crap from a few Christians that were
commenting online that KoRn weren’t “honoring The Lord” in their music.
There was a time when I didn’t think God would be very into KoRn’s music
and lifestyle, but I’ve learned that He loves everyone where they’re
at. And I know God loves KoRn’s music because its passionate and very
honest. I just trip out on these people that have the balls to judge
people so harshly with their negative, hateful attitudes. It’s crazy how
bold people are online. Not one person has come with their negative
attitudes to my face. Luckily, most of the Christians are cool and “get
it.” I only have to deal with a small number of knuckleheads.
Read More: HeAd’s KoRner: Making the ‘Shift’ Back Into Korn | http://loudwire.com/heads-korner-making-the-shift-back-into-korn/?trackback=tsmclip
Read More: HeAd’s KoRner: Making the ‘Shift’ Back Into Korn | http://loudwire.com/heads-korner-making-the-shift-back-into-korn/?trackback=tsmclip
Speaking
of God, I was getting some crap from a few Christians that were
commenting online that KoRn weren’t “honoring The Lord” in their music.
There was a time when I didn’t think God would be very into KoRn’s music
and lifestyle, but I’ve learned that He loves everyone where they’re
at. And I know God loves KoRn’s music because its passionate and very
honest. I just trip out on these people that have the balls to judge
people so harshly with their negative, hateful attitudes. It’s crazy how
bold people are online. Not one person has come with their negative
attitudes to my face. Luckily, most of the Christians are cool and “get
it.” I only have to deal with a small number of knuckleheads.
Read More: HeAd’s KoRner: Making the ‘Shift’ Back Into Korn | http://loudwire.com/heads-korner-making-the-shift-back-into-korn/?trackback=tsmclip
Read More: HeAd’s KoRner: Making the ‘Shift’ Back Into Korn | http://loudwire.com/heads-korner-making-the-shift-back-into-korn/?trackback=tsmclip